Esau and The Edomites

We probably all know that Esau sold his birthright for a bowl of soup. That does not sound so horrible but the penalty God pronounces for that all throughout scripture is the most severe possible. Esau could not re gain his favor with God, he was not allowed to repent even though he sought it with tears.  

Heb 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

 Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Wow! very extreme! So what really happened here? What did Esau actually do for that bowl of soup? Well… God chose Abraham from everyone else on the face of the earth and made a covenant (agreement) with him and his seed (children from Abraham). To be chosen by God was HUGE and the covenant brought with it many blessings as well as responsibilities. Abraham’s one and only son Isaac was to bring forth the seed that would eventually be the Chosen Nation of God.

“for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.” Isaac’s firstborn would inherit the blessing. Twins were born and Esau was the first out of the womb. He was to carry the promise by birth he had the right to the blessing.  That is what he gave away in exchange for a bowl of soup. He sold his birthright to his twin brother Jacob. Jacob inherited the blessing.

Esau hated Jacob and determined to kill him. Jacob fled from his home and spent many years with his mothers brother where he married and had children and was blessed. Years late he decided to return home and on the journey God changed his name from Jacob to Israel.  That is how the chosen people of God became called Israel. Esau became a nation himself (the Edomites) and although no harm came to Jacob from Esau firsthand, the scriptures continue to speak of him, especially in the prophets and ALWAYS in the negative. The entire book of Obadiah (although short) is about Esau or more precisely about those who still commit the same error he did.

 Jer 49:10 But I have made Esau bare, I have uncovered his secret places, and he shall not be able to hide himself: his seed is spoiled, and his brethren, and his neighbours, and he is not.

Oba 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble,(fuel) and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.

 When everything is all said and done there will be no remnant of Edom. It is made very clear that they will be completely gone. God hates them and brings them to a complete end. Now keep in mind we are not talking about a physical nation here. Now, under the new covenant (Jesus)God does not hate a people because of their nationality (and neither does he give them favor because of their nationality) but rather, because of their “spiritual” standing.

God keeps his promises and his seed came down through Abraham to Jesus who brought in a new covenant, one in the spirit. Now the promise is still by birth, you must be born again, born of the spirit of God. Jesus carries the seed and those who are born of him carry the birthright and are now called Israel. 

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

 Ultimately the promise was to Jesus and his seed. Jesus made the promise available to all nationalities through his sacrifice on the cross and his holy spirit. The condition for inheriting this promise is to be born by that spirit into the nation of God which is now “spiritual” in nature. (see Eph 2;17-22)

 Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, (spiritual) which are of Israel: (The physical people/nation)

Rom 9:7

Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

Rom 9:8

That is, They which are the children of the flesh,(physical) these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise (spiritual / under the new covanant) are counted for the seed.  

The Nation of Esau, (Edom) is alive and well today. It has been rebuilt. God told us through the prophet Malachi that it would be rebuilt and once again thrown down.

Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Mal 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

Today,there is an entire nation of people who have given their birthright to another. This is the time of mercy and of calling to repentance so unlike with Esau we can repent (turn from our wrong ways of belief and line up with what God says) and we can re gain our inheritance, but in the end those who insist on rejecting their birthright will be cut off as Esau was. Scripture foretells it clearly.

This time around we are told that Esau will commit violence against his brother Jacob (the true nation of God). Esau will co conspire against Jacob and watch as he his carried away captive he will stand by as Jacob is in his trouble and help the enemy by cutting off Jacob as he tries to escape. He will take Jacobs possessions as reward for his betrayal.

Obadiah speaks of the time when God will judge his house, the tribulation, and how Esau will betray by siding with those who will persecute the house of God. Then when God is finished purging his house and has saved some by this refining fire, he will cause the enemy to turn on Esau and betray him, just as he betrayed Jacob, but none of the Edomites will be saved. That nation will be “laid waste” and “their shall not be any remaining”. Just as Malachi 1:4 prophesies. Read Obadiah

Satan is cunning and has brought us doctrines of Demons and commandments of men. We have been lied to and believed the lies, and thus the Nation of Edom has been rebuilt, even I was once an Edomite. Today is the day to turn to God and him alone for truth. Satan has caused us to reject our birthright and without it we are impoverished and ineffective against him. We are also in Idolatry as we believe we are to honor and serve a nation that does not belong to God. While we do this we are deceived into rejecting the very nation we have been commanded to bless. The spiritual nation made up of born again believers of every nation tribe and tong on earth.

Gen 12:3  And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

One of the most devastating consequences of losing our true identity (its been stolen by our enemy) is that we don’t know when God is speaking to US in his written word. When he calls us by our name “Israel” “Jacob” “Jerusalem” etc… we are deaf to it! Oh I hope you see how all encompassing this deceit is!

Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

I pray that our eyes will see and our ears will hear and that the vision will not become unto us as one who says I cannot see for it is sealed.  

Isa 29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: I hope you can begin to understand why God HATES Esau!

Lord Jesus please open our eyes! 

I love you all, Cindy


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68 Responses to Esau and The Edomites

  1. Betsy says:

    Have you looked at Esau and Jacob and why his mother was involved in the tricking of the blessing?
    Esau was disobedient to his mother & father.
    Before Isaac was to bless his sons this story is mentioned in scripture:
    Genesis 26:
    34 And Esau was forty years old when he took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite:
    35 Which were a grief of mind unto Isaac and to Rebekah

    So he went and married caananitish women. Now, why would he do that?
    Then after the blessing to Jacob occurred Esau did it again…
    Genesis 28:
    1 And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.
    2 Arise, go to Padan–aram, to the house of Bethuel thy mother’s father; and take thee a wife from thence of the daughters of Laban thy mother’s brother.
    3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
    4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.

    6 When Esau saw that Isaac had blessed Jacob, and sent him away to Padan–aram, to take him a wife from thence; and that as he blessed him he gave him a charge, saying, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan;
    7 And that Jacob obeyed his father and his mother, and was gone to Padan–aram;
    8 And Esau seeing that the daughters of Canaan pleased not Isaac his father;
    9 Then went Esau unto Ishmael (who married an egyptian), and took unto the wives which he had Mahalath the daughter of Ishmael Abraham’s son, the sister of Nebajoth, to be his wife.

    In Esau’s geneologies he also married a couple of Seir the giant’s daughters/grand daughter. His son Eliphaz also married/concubine a giant descendant named Timna.
    He never married anyone from Padan-aram, He mostly married women from the tribes God would drive out of the promised land. He was acting as Cain very much so, hated his brother’s works because they were righteous (Jacob obeyed and believed).

    Interesting isn’t it?

  2. Yahudah ban Yasharal says:

    There is one thing you forgot: the prophecy of “the elder shall serve the younger”, so Jacob was going to receive the inheritance of reigning over Esau anyway, and the Most High ALWAYS deals with nations. He doesn’t look at religion, skin color or anything, if you’re obedient to Torah, then you’re considered Israel, and ONLY Israel shall be saved in the end.

    • Mark says:

      Esau was a physical man and Edom is a physical nation and they will all be destroyed according to Scriptures, they will all be cut off. They are a physical people, this is not spiritual, to say that it is, is a lie. They will have to pay for what they’ve done as a nation. People don’t believe in the Bible as it is written because they want to escape judgement, but how can you create hope where GOD says there’s is none?

      • Ak says:

        God says there is no hope for those who are carnal and the physical man. You really don’t understand what God is saying and want so much for your brother to die.

    • james says:

      There is no such thing as a spiritual Israelite. And not only that edomites are going to be cut off by slaughter This talking about an physical nation! A physical people. Just like the valley of dry bones is talking about the whole house of Israel! Not some spiritual awakening. This talking about an Army and we all know what armies do…YES! Yes they go

      • james says:

        Cont armies vo to war! The edomites are still herd they are those conveys that claim to be us!,They are romans/Khazarians Europeans Idumea. So called white people. Yes the Africans have a butt kicking coming as well! And the Arabs and the pale face Asians. Herod was amd Edomite remember he had all the male Israelite babies killed! His lime what they still do today. Kill YAHUAH’s people who his happened to be dark skin with wooly hair that was loaded on slave ships!… Judah and Benjamin.the southern tribes. The scriptures is talking about a physical people that will B wiped of the face of the entire earth. Edomites men women and children.

      • Brian Wagner says:

        …a good example of cultish beliefs, following the teachings and interpretations of Scripture that require one man’s musings to tell others what to believe that they could never in a million years figure out from Scripture using normal rules of grammar and context! Guard your money and your women from such men!

        What a Wonderful Savior is Jesus!

        *Brian H. Wagner*

        Virginia Baptist College

  3. Yahudah ban Yasharal says:

    And plus He has NOT done away with the physical seed of Israel, scripture says if the sun, moon and stars are still in existence, then Israel is still a nation unto Him.

    • Betsy says:

      Matthew 24: 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
      Mark 13: 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
      25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
      Revelation 22: 5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

      Looks like the stars are gone here…

    • Elijah Yisrael says:

      All Praises to the Most High. The Physical seed of Israel exist today on the four corners of the earth (i.e. some are in America, West Indies (West Slaves) called the Caribbean Islands, North and South America, some in so call Africa (it was rename after Leo Scipio Africanus).

      The end of this wicked kingdom is at hand and the ushering of the new kingdom of Jerusalem and the 12 Tribes of Israel shall rule and reign FOREVER and EVER. The time of JACOBs trouble will be over.

      This is the time of the END of Esau and his descendants, who MUST FACE JUDGEMENT from the Most High for all their wickedness on the face of the earth, and EDOM DESTRUCTION and removal from the face of the Earth. They must pay for all their crimes, genocides, deceptions (false white image of Yahawashi, Yahawashi is a white man, claiming to be God, blasphemy, Lynchings, identity theft, culture bandit, white supremacy, white washing, renaming GOD’s people Israel to bywords and proverbs, selling Israelites in America, Brazil, and other places on the earth as SLAVES, raping men, women, and children, unspeakable crimes against humanity, and etcetera ), Even today, Edom is a nation of a red people committing horrendous and vile atrocities upon the earth, They never have enough of committing their wild nature and wickedness upon the face of the earth. This nation (Edom) of people (So call white man) takes everything, and leave nothing. The so call white man must pay for all the whoredom of the daughters of Zion,

      There shall be NO MERCY for EDOM from Yahawah, as he (so call white man) had done to the SAINTS who are the 12 Tribes of Israel, the Hebrew Israelites (Jeremiah 14:2, Deuteronomy 7:6, 1 Peter 2:9, Amos 3:1-2, Deut. 28:68) in Slavery upon the face of the earth.

  4. Jerry says:

    Esau exalts himself as the eagle that is the symbol of the nations of Edom. Esau was marrying repeobate wifes, and it seems he was only intrested in the blessings rather than loving obidience towards the father and the son. Esua’s decendants also banded with some of the children of Japheth. Job was an Edomite, there is a reference of this in a Targum, and the Book of the Bee, He wasnt like the rest of his brethren. Israel isnt the only group that will be saved in fact most have gone by the wayside, and salvation is given to elect gentile and israelite people. As scripture says no one goes to Christ unless God allows it to be, and no one goes to God except thru Christ. Be blessed

    • Ruth says:

      Job 30:30

      • Roberta Clark says:

        Sorry but the Most High is not Bipolar, and he doesn’t change. Malachi:3:6 when he told the children of Yisrael if they didn’t obey him they would be going into slavery and suffer at the hands of our enemies. That came to pass. There is no scriptures that say that Edomites will have salvation they will not have salvation they will only live for a short while as SLAVES and it will not be a good slavery I don’t care what you people teach I know what the Most High showed me about them and its horrible the judgments that are coming their way is hardcore Bondage Joel:3:3-9. Many of them are going to suffer greatly many will think and believe that they have a part with us, but the scriptures tell us that they are to be totally and utterly destroyed of this face of this entire earth! Jubilees:26:34, Obadiah:1-21 Joel:3:3-9, Isiah:14:1-2(21) Isaiah:63:1-5 another brother was shown that these Caucasians are not getting salvation and they have been deceived even the ones that claim to be for Him and love the true Yisraelites he showed me their true nature and its horrible! The are from the seed of Satan their seed is ruined and mixed with fallen Angels dna, K-9 DNA RODENT DNA they are fully hueman. YAHUSHA called them the children of the devil this was not a metaphor.

      • Robert Clark says:

        My name is missed spelled, I’m Robert Clark. please ignore the (Roberta) that’s a female name.

  5. Pikmi Gyum says:

    Esau and those who descended from him will be utterly annhaliated Obadiah 1:18, there is no salavtion for Edom. As you stated Esau was as one of the other naty ions that destroyed Israel, but did worst than all the other nations, Esau didn’t do this Edom did. Those who descended from him, so GOD will fulfill his promise against Esau for his perpetual hatred against the children of Israel. The judgement against Edom is true justice for what they’ve done, theyrun the earth and mostly teach religion. They are the authority of religion today but themselves cannot be saved.
    Obadiah 1:9
    9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

    Obadiah 1:18
    18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.

    • Robert Clark says:

      You are totally correct! the scri[ptures is very clear about the total destruction of these heathens. The Most High showed me that they think they are going to be saved, by him. The only reason will survive it’s because they will suffer hardcore slavery, the rest of them are going to suffer a slow painful death and not be able to die! They are going to see their children taking and dash to pieces and we are not going to pity them Neither will THE MOST HIGH have any mercy on them. Zondervan Compact bible dictionary pg:141-142 and the Isaac already told Rebbca that Esau and his entire nation/Seed are going to SIN THE COMPLETE SIN UNTIL THEY ARE TOTALLY UPROOTED FROM UNDER HEAVEN AND CAST INTO THE LAKE OF HELLFIRE! FOREVER! READ THE BOOK OF JUBILEES:26:34, CHAPTERS:35, 36, 37…ISAAC SAYS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE CAST INTO THE LAST OF HELLFIRE! NEVER TO BE SEEN OF NEITHER HEARD OF AGAIN IT WILL BE LIKE THEY EDOMITES HAD NEVER EXISTED. THE RUINED SEE OF ESAU! JER:49.

  6. Pikmi Gyum says:

    Esau and those who descended from him will be utterly annhaliated Obadiah 1:18, there is no salavtion for Edom. As you stated Esau was as one of the other nations that destroyed Israel, but did worst than all the other nations, Esau didn’t do this Edom did. Those who descended from him did this, so GOD will fulfill his promise against Esau for his perpetual hatred against the children of Israel. The judgement against Edom is true justice for what they’ve done, they rule and run the earth and teach teach religion all over the world. They are the authority of religion today but they themselves cannot be saved. Which is why they teach false doctrine to keep the children of Israel in sin, because the real Jews do not know they are Jews. They are the lost sheep and Edom was the nation GOD used to take their heritage away from them. Esau still war against the children today to steal their birthright and the true Jews don’t even have a clue as to who they are but Edom knows. (Jeremiah 17:4) The actions of Edom shows why GOD ultimately hates him and has not promised him any mercy, Edom is the only nation that will suffer extermination, after serving slavery to Israel.
    Obadiah 1:9
    9 And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

    Obadiah 1:18
    18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath spoken it.

  7. Mark Cube says:

    You’re a liar Esau was a physical man and the Edomites are a physical nation and when it is all said and done, GOD will destroy them as a nation, for their violence against the Holy seed.

    • cmardern says:

      I don’t deny the physical Mark, I just like to show the spiritual overlay

      • james says:

        That ks a bunch of Bullcrap! The scripture is very clear about the nation of Edomites. Zondevan compact bible dictionary pg:141-142 Edom/Edomites are the scene of great future Judgments. Their entire nation. No mercy for Esau. Ezekiel:33:14-15. So -called white folk can pull this off then they can receive salvation. If not it’s. Slavery slaughter then the lake of hell t believe me? Jubilees26:34 Jubilees: Chapters 35,36&37.

    • RobertClark says:

      Job was, in fact, a black Edomite but the scripture shows us that Esau’s seed is ruined, thus they are the colorless heathens aka so-called white folks and I meant to say they are not fully hueman. The Edomites were not always this pale color Jer:49 he mixed his seed with that of Fallen angels and the seed of Cain this why they are cut off as being anything hueman!

  8. Mark Cube says:

    Esau was a physical man and Edom is a physical nation and they will all be destroyed according to Scriptures, they will all be cut off. They are a physical people, this is not spiritual, to say that it is, is a lie. They will have to pay for what they’ve done as a nation. People don’t believe in the Bible as it is written because they want to escape judgement, but how can you create hope where GOD says there’s is none?

  9. brianwagner says:

    Did you ever consider how Genesis 33:4-10 points strongly to Esau, as an individual, becoming a child of the covenant, as seen in his obvious forgiveness of Jacob?

    In support of this think of Jesus’ words found in Luke 7:47 – “Therefore I say to you, her sins, [which are] many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, [the same] loves little.” Did not Esau demonstrate that he was in possession of divine forgiveness, because he obviously demonstrated loving forgiveness to Jacob? Did not he run to Jacob, fall on his neck and kiss him (33:4)? Who does that remind you of? (cf. Luke 15:20)

    Also consider these two verses –
    Deuteronomy 23:7-8 “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. ….Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the Lord.
    Amos 9:12 – that they may possess the remnant of Edom
    and all the nations who are called by my name,” declares the Lord who does this.

    It is not correct to say – “the scriptures continue to speak of him [Esau/Edom], especially in the prophets and ALWAYS in the negative.”

    • cmardern says:

      i can see this for sure Brian. I also see the tribe of Dan in the camp of the saints in Rev 4 (and Ephraim) This is opening up right now we need to stay humble as we forgive.
      Thanks for the comment Brian welcome

    • cmardern says:

      I appreciate this Brian, I see positive and negative examples one would be Bethel where Jacob became Israel but is also the place where Israel went into Golden Calf worship. it seems the patterns there are replazing in today us Bethel Movement are more applicable than the transformation of Jacob. I see the same thing when considering Edom and the Edomite rule at the time of Herod, as it’s replaying today and it’s not good.
      Are you comparing Esau to Judas? I can see that. I’m also realizing Judas is the first antichrist as I see him identified with the Idol Shephard in Zechariah

      Zec 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
      Zec 11:13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
      Zec 11:14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
      Zec 11:15 And the LORD said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments of a foolish shepherd.
      Zec 11:16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, which shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.


      • brianwagner says:

        Good morning Chris! I am not comparing Esau with Judas. I think Esau’s example to Jacob in Gen 33 compares with the forgiveness demonstrated by the father to his prodigal son (Luke 15)!

    • Brian Mino says:

      BRIAN I like your name lol. Brian Dueteronomy CH 23 verses 7-8 DOES SAY THOU SHALT NOT HATE AN EDOMITE/EGYPTIAN and if an Isrealite marries an edomite or an Egyptian their children may enter the congregation of ISREAL meaning body politic and military service as well as full privaledges of everyday civilian life. So what is the third generation? It would be the great grandchild so one great grandparent was an edomite and the other 7 Isrealites or 1/8 edomite/Egyptian. My guess is that after 3 generations of mixing with Isrealites that most of the evil nature of the edominte would be breeded out of them.

      • brianwagner says:

        I used to think it was the third from each individual convert from Egypt or Edom… but I now think it’s the third generation from an earlier point in Israel’s formation… perhaps the time of Israel’s entrance into Canaan.

        David was not the 10th from his Moabite mother Ruth, but he was from Israel’s entrance in Egypt as a unique people, I believe, so his being part Moabite blood wouldn’t matter.

        But perhaps the mother’s lineage didn’t matter. I would probably still start the counting of the generations from entrance in Canaan if not before.

    • Validity says:

      Esau and Jacob made up. But Esau’s descendants are still warring with Israel’s descendants.

    • Robert Clark says:

      Well, you might want to read the correction of that verse! because that is a clerical error! It should have read you should not abhor a Syrian for he is thy brother!
      Strong’s Exhaustive Dictionary #726 thou shalt not ABHOR A SYRIAN for he is they, brother! that is a clerical error The Syrian are our brothers, not these fake Caucasians heathens.

      • brianwagner says:

        Robert – the correction was in 2Ki 16:6 where Syrian should be Edomite, not the other way around. There is no correction suggested by the Masoretes or LXX scribes for Deut 23:7. You are twisting God’s Word to suit your cultish interpretation.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Deuteronomy CH. 23 if an EDOMITE proselyte marries an Isrealite their offspring may enter the congregation of the LORD in their third generation (Great Grandchild) so if you are only 1/8th EDOMITE and 7/8th Isrealite than you are eligible for Salvation. My guess is because at that level you have Breeded most of the EDOMITE genes and nature out of them and by being raised around the other Isrealites you would of learned Israelite behavior as well.

    • Rober tClark says:

      the scriptures call them BASTARDS! So all of that 1/8 and so on. the edomite bloodline must be blacked out! like the way these heathens try and white out our people.

  11. Pharohx says:

    Edomites, cannot choose to not be Edomites. You are what you are… the wicked created for the day of evil (Proverbs 16:4). There is NO such thing as spiritual Israelites (seed). You have misunderstood Roman 9:8 completely. Look right above that, Romans 9:1-5…. and you can see cleary EVERYTHING belongs to the Israelites BECAUSE of their FLESH! That is unless you think that Ra Shaul (Paul) is contradicting himself in the same chapter? No I bet he knew what he was saying and it is you that cant bear the reality that you Edomites are without salvation. Listen dont try to Gentile your way in to the covenants. BTW, the Gentiles Christ was talking about were the ones lost to Hellenization during the Greek captivity, Israelites. That’s why Christ said out of his own mouth , “There is neither Jew nor GREEK,”(Galatians 3:28) and “I am NOT sent BUT unto the LOST sheep of the house of Israel” ( Matthew 15:24). Remember he said GREEK not Gentile or Roman. And before you get thinking too hard, Christ lived in the time of the Roman captivity, and Romans are not Greeks, and they spoke Latin not Greek. Stop trying to force your way in. There was no phrophet outside of Israelites, Messiah or people unto God outside of the Israelite nation. Get it.. That’s the take away! Jusy enjoy your kingdom now because when Chirst returns.. Woe to you Edomites!

  12. Pharohx says:

    Christ came to do his father’s will, not change it. Those who think that a magic gate opened somewhere between Genesis and Revelations to strangers is obviously not able to precept very well. IF John 3:16 means what strangers say and includes everyone on Earth, ask yourselves this! How many times would that make Christ a lier? How many times would that make God a lier? How many Prophets and Disciples would have to be liers for that to be true? Start at Genesis, now count… I’ll wait. You cant read contradictions into the Bible so its says what you want and You teach lies like, theirs a way for Edom to escape judgement and there is such a thing as spiritual children of God. Just STOP!

    • Jan says:

      People don’t know that the Bible is only talking to the white Israelite. Yahshua said He came only for the lost sheep of the house of Israel Matthew 15:24. That never changed. The disciple never preached to anyone but white people. They didn’t go to china, india, Mexico or the black Congo. Judeo Christians (and what an oxymoron that is since God hates Esau) believe the wolves. They were told by the Israelite Paul not to put faith in Jewish fables but they don’t study and don’t realize they are different entities. John 3:16 is talking about what God created, not the chaos created by the fallen angels. The judeo-christians spout single verses, taking them out of context because they don’t understand the Bible as a whole. If they’re not white, don’t bother. We are only commanded to love the brethren (fellow Israelites) not the wicked.

      Oh and by the way, Ruth was an Israelite. Many Israelites lived in the territory of Moab after the Israelites defeated them in battle and pushed them out. EVERYONE IN JESUS GENEALOGY WAS WHITE, even though the universalists try and dispute it. This Moab history is in the OT. Also Rahab and Tamar were white, not Canaanites. It’s blasphemy for those who believe God would allow His mortal enemies in His down line.

      • Robert Clark says:

        there is no such nation as the white Yisraelites those demons are from the seed of the devil. You Caucasians are not from this earth! You are from Satan and Fallen Angels, THE MOSTHIGH is the creator of the black/brown nations as in Negros. Not you other heathens nations. your own scientist proves this that you are not fully hueman. and that you have 145 different DNA/genes that are not of this earth and have K-9 (DOG) dna along with some other DNA that’s not hueman neither of this earth!.

    • JeffreyB says:

      “Therefore I want you to know that God’s salvation has been sent to the Gentiles, and they will listen!”
      (Acts 28:28)
      A gentile is a non Jew, any non Jew!!

      If only they were wise and would understand this and discern what their end will be!
      (Deuteronomy 32:29)
      If only you were wise!

  13. brianwagner says:

    Hey Pharohx… What about Ruth? What about the law – Deuteronomy 23:7-8 “You shall not abhor an Edomite, for he is your brother. ….Children born to them in the third generation may enter the assembly of the Lord?” or Lev 19:34 “The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I [am] the LORD your God.”

    Or why did Jesus say of the Gentile centurion – Matt 8:10 “When Jesus heard [it,] He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel!”

    Consider please, my friend, that you have chosen to follow a man that is teaching you a false gospel, and you have unwisely pledged your loyalty to him, and to his teaching, to that point that you ignore clear Scriptures that teach the opposite, and you instead accept his twisting of them. Ask him about these verses that I just gave you, see what he does with them, and pray for discernment.

    • Robert Clark says:

      You call people cultish, when they no longer want anything to do with the filthy heathen Christian lies of the same heathen dogs that were raping the black men on and off the slave ships making faggots out of our men and young boys! ! Yes! all of this was done in the name of Edomite Jesus! And you need to repent and ask the Most High to show you the truth. I don’t hate anyone but I refuse to be a dumb docile Punk ready to kiss the pale butts of the very same heathens dogs that are killing our people today and they are Christians! Christianity is demonic!

      • brianwagner says:

        Robert – the correction was in 2Ki 16:6 where Syrian should be Edomite, not the other way around. There is no correction suggested by the Masoretes or LXX scribes for Deut 23:7. You are twisting God’s Word to suit your cultish interpretation.

  14. Illuminate says:

    I appreciate this post very much. It encouraged me.

  15. Yoko Jacobson says:

    Esau, is the father of the Edomites and they (his seed) will be cut off and destroyed. God has said this it is very clear in Scripture.y

    • Jan says:

      Esau-Edom are the Jews, not the Israelites. Jews are miscegenated mongrels, not pure white Israel race. God came for His lost sheep. No other people group. He only created the white race. All others are children of the fallen ones.

  16. Am says:

    Whites are edomites, why want you people admit it,because you know the prophecy of your destruction, because of murderous, evil, malice , bigot , uncaring , untrustworthy , greed , selfish , intolerance ,hate-filled, haughtiness ways,you thought all the evil you did wouldn’t have consequences, GOD HATES YOU WHITES EDOMITES, LOOK AT YOUR HISTORY, of injustices, lynching ,murder,slavery,pillaging,murder and mistreatment of the natives,all the evil you edomites have done to the truth Israelites blacks,Hispanics and natives:But I have stripped Esau (Edom) bare; I have uncovered his hiding places And he cannot hide himself. His descendants have been destroyed along with his brothers (relatives) and his neighbors; And he is no more.God is going to destroy you edomites.

    • cmardern says:

      Our positions in the Kingdom have nothing to do with race. Are we Abrahams seed by faith? That is the only requirement.

      1Ti_1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

      • Jan says:

        You are wrong. It literally means Abraham’s white seed. Do you not understand the promises God made to Abraham? Your seed will be a great nation (USA) and a great company of nations (Great Britain). And through Abraham’s seed all families of the world will be blessed. Were we blessed by the blacks? No! Were we blessed by Mexicans? No! Were we blessed by the Chinese? No! By the Indians? No! Only by the white man who taught agriculture to all people; who raised the standard of living exponentially for many, many people. The white people created and discovered so many things like farm equipment, steam ships, ocean liners, airplanes, and medical equipment just to name a few things. Don’t listen to the filthy Jews who spread lies and propaganda about the white man. Know this that USA is in the Bible as the new Israel and God said His white children will never leave. The end is near. The others will be eliminated along with the lying Jew.

      • Jan says:

        You don’t even know what that means. Perhaps you should study the pagan history in Greece at that time and then you might understand the genealogies comment. If you’re not white, pure white, Jesus did not come for you Matthew 15:24.

    • brianwagner says:

      Jesus loves you, Am! I hope you can sense when you read the gospels! May God bless you!

    • Jan says:

      The Jews are Edomites you fool, not the white man. The jews are mongrels, not a pure race. White people, true white people, are the pure race of God. God is not black, He is not brown, red or yellow. God only made one race: the white adamites. All the rest will be uprooted Matthew 15:13.

  17. Sarah Williams says:

    You still have it wrong
    Go back to read KJV Bible, Deuteronomy – The blessings and curses of obedience and disobedience to God. Pay close attention to the curses.

    Also realize that the penalties and/or rewards of the covenant with God was pronounced by Moses, post- exodus. These same folks (nation) was under egyptian bondage (they built the great pyramids, Sphinx, etc..) for over 400 years. God said that for disobedience to Him (transgressions the covenant), that they would go Back to Egypt With Ships. They had just WALKED out of Egypt, why would they go back to Bond age in SHIPS?? Because it would be another bondage in another place, with all of the same parallels.

    So now…..WHAT COUNTRY (MONUMENTS, PRESIDENTIAL OALEACES, ETC…)WAS BUILT WITH SLAVE LABOR? SLAVE LABOR THAT CAME VIA SHIPS?? Freemasonry, anyone? That,s from Ancient Egypt, and that’s HOWTHIS COUNTRY (USA)WAS DESIGNED, AND BUILT ON THE BACKS of the SAME PEOPLE. There’s and Obelisk monument in Washington, DC ! DC is aid out in a pentagram! ! How about the Pentagon? ? The white folks claiming to be jews are Khazars.

    • Jan says:

      I’ve got news for you, miss braindead. God cares nothing about black people, brown people, yellow people or red people. They are not His creation nor do they love Him. They were generated by the fallen angels through copulation with beasts of the field. You are blinded by the lies from wolves in sheep’s clothing. Unless you unload the lies, you won’t understand the truth of the Bible. The apostles and disciple only went to white people preaching the gospel because Adam and Eve were the progenitors of the white race, not all races.

  18. Sarah Williams says:

    Through the blood of Jesus, all are welcome. So in that note, there is neither Jew nor greek. BUT… These different nations are mentioned individually along with the crimes against God’s chosen bloodline. All (including Israel’s seed) will be judged accordingly. If blood nationalit no longer matters, then Jesus would not cone back to avenge and judge NATIONS, as ND plead with the sword for God’s PEOPLE. The bible would not even mention it, if it no longer mattered .

    • Jan says:

      No, not all are welcomed. The reason why God had to die was to redeem the Israelites that He had divorced in the Old Testament. Had He not done that, He could not have violated His own divorce laws and remarry Israel His bride unless He died, which relieves the surviving party (Israel) from the curse of the law. This has nothing to do with any other people on earth but the white man. The Jews are Esa-Edom, not Israel. They are filthy usurpers. Jesus was an Israelite, pure white race, not a mongrelized jew.

      Note: Matthew 15:13 and 15:24. Read James 1:1. When Paul says there is no difference between “Jew and Greek” he’s saying there is no difference between Judahites and the lost sheep from 745 BC who migrated to Greece and to other areas. Did you know that the lost sheep at that time had already migrated to Great Britain and after Joseph of Aramathea buried Jesus, he went to England to preach the gospel and that is where the first Christian church was built. Also Jeremiah had taken King Zedekiah’s daughters to Ireland. The jews have usurped the Israelites position with their Father Yahweh, but soon Joseph and Jacob will turn Esau to stubble. This is prophecy not a spiritual allegory. Also so you know, the sin in the garden was race mixing with fallen angels and producing Cain. Cain’s people the Kenites mated with Canaanites which means jews have fallen angel blood, and God’s mortal enemies. Churchianity has been lying to Judeo-Christians for a hundred years. Get out of 501c3 churches. The jews own and control everything as a judgement on Jacob for abortion, divorce, race mixing, sexual immorality, homosexuality, idolatry, and more. We are close to the end.

      • Brian Mino says:

        Cain was not ADAM’S son he was the son of satan the devil! The fallen angels did not appear onto the scene for a few hundred years after that in Genesis CH 6. And that is why the shemites and the Isrealites were forbidden to marry the canaanites.

  19. Browen Russell says:

    Thanks for the enlightenment. ..The story. Is understandable now! Goes Bless

  20. michelle says:

    Amazing! Thank you.
    I was wondering it says that we should not hate the edomites that they are our brothers an they should enter in in the third generation… But than he becomes part of the body of christ. There is neither jew or gentile bond nor free. What do you think of that? Edomites can be saved unless they don’t repent right?

  21. Jan says:

    This is the biggest piece of tripe I’ve ever read. This fight between Jacob (the lost sheep of the house of Israel) and Esau (the Edomite jew) is real and physical, not spiritual as Esau and his offspring Canaanite jew offspring are not redeemed. The usurping Jews along with the other “plants” not planted by the Father (Matthew 15:13) will be tossed in the lake of fire. Esau’s miscegenation is what really cost him the birthright and why he couldn’t repent. It’s an unrepentable sin. Sadly, you don’t understand the Bible. Only the white man lost his favor in the garden. Adamites are white men, not strange flesh that God did not create.

  22. Malachi says:

    This so called white man is ESAU THE WICKED MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT AMERIKKA and her alias the great RED dragon AMERIKKA and the BEAST nations shall be thrown down the so called African Americans Hispanics and native Americans are the 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL the WICKED is the white man the EDOMITES they are the border of wickekness who the LORD has INDIGNATION AGAINST FOREVER he is being REVEALED IN HIS TIME AND NOW IS HIS TIME OF RULING..MHNCB

  23. Malachi says:

    This is though true the nation of edom is not a SPIRITUAL meaning he was a man just as ISRAEL was a man he the children of edom are still around just as the children of Israel are still say otherwise is shear foolishness men try to change GODS HOLY WORD to fit them esau or the EDOMITES are mentioned in future JUDGMENTS if CHRIST THE BLACK MESSIAH changed that either he is a very confused GOD or men are LYING I choose to believe men are LYING the MOSTHIGH chose ISRAEL as his people and nothing has changed that fact..the TRUTH IS esau the EDOMITES are the so called white men they are red and hairy just as esau was the children of Israel are the so called African Americans Hispanics and native Americans read DEUTERONOMY CHAPTER 28 THESE CURSES INDENTIFY WHOM THE TRUE children of Israel are TODAY.. CHRIST THE BLACK MESSIAH came to save the 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL AND NONE ELSE I HAVE NOT BEEN SENT BUT UNTO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL I CAME TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST.. that’s the children of Israel..we received his LAWS STATUTES AND COMMANDMENTS WE ENTERED INTO A BLOOD COVENANT WITH THE MOSTHIGH WE BROKE IT SO WE NEEDED A SAVIOR THE CHRIST WAS SENT FOR THIS REASON..STOP LYING SIR ..MHNCB

  24. Yisrael says:

    White people are the Edomites and Negoes are the Israelites. Jesus and the new testament was created by you Edomites to keep us away from God. Because if use keep us from God, then God won’t come back to save us because we keep worshiping other Gods like Jesus.

  25. The old testament prophesy on Israel’s second journey to Egypt to the very discription fits the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Jesus was black and it does matter because that tells is that Israelites are black and that we have all been duped. What is going on in Israel right now is deception. Esau, the Europeans and Romans twisted everything and we took captive the Israelites. I am a US citizen with a Europe background and I am terrified that the present day Edom actually is the United States of America. The description in obidiah fits us too well.

  26. JohnnyZboy says:

    If’n you’re washed in the blood of Jesus & born of the water and the spirit… also abiding in Christ…. are you sure you are an Edomite????

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