6 Responses to Podcast Chris Ardern: Before they Spring Forth

1. Vickie Jacobs says:

   August 24, 2016 at 4:47 pm

   Chris,
   What can I say…Thank-you. Thank-you for letting the Lord use you to lift us up in these days. It brings me back on track especially when so many seem to follow the soup of false doctrines coming to try to feed us. We are God’s servants to have him use us and we seem to be getting hit from all directions these days. We hear so many voices but Jesus Christ is truth and we hear his voice to follow. My heart hurts for those who have heard his voice but now hear and listen to others.
   Also, it is wonderful to know our voice will come through all this rotten soup others try to eat and that we can help many get back to His truth. Like you said…we need to have patience and wait for the Lord.
   Vickie

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2. Darrell Strong says:

   September 12, 2016 at 8:33 pm

   Chris,
   Just finished listening to your podcast and wanted to drop you a line because a lot of what you spoke on are passages that I have been pondering as of late. I see similar conclusions as you but by no means do I see God’s entire picture. I see a bit of it.

   I believe that God is the master clue maker who hides things in plain sight in His word and will not reveal them unless we seek them out diligently. And so much of what we had learned in the Word needs to be re-learned because His word leads to divergent conclusions than what has be taught in mainstream Christianity, certainly in the last 50-75 years.

   I have spent weeks studying the characteristics of the “144,000” from Rev 14 and tried to follow the “clues” that God leaves in His word. I just want to post a few of the things (certainly not all) that I see related to the 144,000 and the crossover to the things you spoke on in your podcast.
   It is safe to say that these are the co-heirs w/ Christ that you mentioned in your podcast.
   Hopefully i’ll be clear.

   The 144,000 are:
   1. singing a “new song” – that only they know, understand or have been taught

   2. “firstfruits” unto God- come to spiritual maturity first

   3. associated with a voice which (John) heard “as the voice of harpers harping with their harps” (1 Cor 14:5-8 -“revelation, or of knowledge, or of prophesying, or of teaching…in preparation for war”)

   Passages in OT that include “harp” and “new song”:
   1. Psalms 33
   2. Psalms 98
   3. Psalms 149

   Passages in OT that include “new song” and “firstfruits”
   1. Psalms 144
   ***Note: Firstfruits are described in Ps 144:12 “When our sons shall be as plants grown up in their youth”

   This suggests that these Psalms are being used to further identify the characteristics of the “144,000” that are on Mt Zion in Revelation 14.

   a. God uses these people during the time of judgement AND to execute judgement
   b. Hence God has taught them how to “war” and “fight” with the two-edged sword
   c. These people are to play their “harps” and sing their “new song” loud and skillfully
   d. These people are going through great distress and have to trust Him.
   e. These people are being wounded by “hurtful swords” and by “aliens” (strange children) who speak falsehood and deceit
   f. Their garners (or granaries) are full of grain (like Joseph’s)
   g. They execute judgement on nations, nobles, kings and peoples.
   h. God considers this an “honor” which all his “saints” have.

   I do believe these people are being prepared now as God has removed their blinders spiritually and they are seeing much more. Most likely as a result of “not being defiled with women” and following the lamb wherever He goes, even if it contradicts what they learned in mainstream Christianity. I certainly don’t see the evidence today of how God uses them to execute His judgement. I do believe that they are being prepared via a great time of hardship.

   Darrell

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3. Darrell Strong says:

   September 15, 2016 at 6:26 pm

   Chris,
   Just finished listening to your podcast and wanted to drop you a line because a lot of what you spoke on are passages that I have been pondering as of late. I see similar conclusions as you but by no means do I see God’s entire picture. Just a bit of it.
   I believe that God is the master clue maker who hides things in plain sight in His word and will not reveal them unless we seek them out diligently. And so much of what we had learned in the Word needs to be re-learned because His word leads to divergent conclusions than what has be taught in mainstream Christianity, certainly in the last 50-75 years.
   I have spent weeks studying the characteristics of the “144,000” from Rev 14 and tried to follow the “clues” that God leaves in His word. I just want to post a few of the things (certainly not all) that I see related to the 144,000 and the crossover to the things you spoke on in your podcast.
   It is safe to say that these are the co-heirs w/ Christ that you mentioned in your podcast.
   Hopefully i’ll be clear.
   The 144,000 in Rev 14 are:
   1. singing a “new song” – that only they know, understand or have been taught

   2. “firstfruits” unto God- come to spiritual maturity first

   3. associated with a voice which (John) heard “as the voice of harpers harping with their harps” (1 Cor 14:5-8 -“revelation, or of knowledge, or of prophesying, or of teaching…in preparation for war”)
   Passages in OT that include “harp” and “new song”:
   1. Psalms 33
   2. Psalms 98
   3. Psalms 149

   Passages in OT that include “new song” and “firstfruits”
   1. Psalms 144
   ***Note: Firstfruits are described in Ps 144:12 “When our sons shall be as plants grown up in their youth”

   This suggests that these Psalms are being used to further identify the characteristics of the “144,000” that are on Mt Zion in Revelation 14.

   a. God uses these people during the time of judgement AND to execute judgement
   b. Hence God has taught them how to “war” and “fight” with the two-edged sword
   c. These people are to play their “harps” and sing their “new song” loud and skillfully
   d. These people are going through great distress and have to trust Him.
   e. These people are being wounded by “hurtful swords” and by “aliens” (strange children) who speak falsehood and deceit
   f. Their garners (or granaries) are full of grain (like Joseph’s)
   g. They execute judgement on nations, nobles, kings and peoples.
   h. God considers this an “honor” which all his “saints” have.

   I do believe these people are being prepared now as God has removed their blinders spiritually and they are seeing much more. Most likely as a result of “not being defiled with women” and following the lamb wherever He goes, even if it contradicts what they learned in mainstream Christianity. I certainly don’t see the evidence today of how God uses them to execute His judgement. I do believe that they are being prepared.
   Darrell

   Reply

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5. Winston says:

   December 14, 2019 at 2:14 am

   Portion of meat in due season! I’m here Chris although silent … I am upon my watch .. I’m being fed in that place prepared of Him .. Heavily under the rod being refined and set apart … Waiting for rain! Very good … My thoughts are your thoughts!

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